Minggu, 06 September 2015

People Gone Crazy - "Comment War" on Youtube

Few days ago, i just watched a movie trailer "The Danish Girl" on Youtube. Eddie Redmayne, the freckle-faced Brit got the main role who played as a transgender woman. The first time i knew him as a great actor from a movie "A week with Marilyn Monroe" with Michelle Williams who played as Monroe. In my opinion, this biopic gonna be very interesting to watch. The plot is just promising to satisfy movie lovers. One thing that captivate me is Eddie looks so stunning dressed up as a woman. He becomes so beautiful (typical European vintage beauty). Hence, I posted a comment :

"It's kind of awkward to see a man who dress up like a lady, and he becomes way more beautiful than the real women"

Then, I left the page and forget about it until some notifications from Youtube pop-up in my tablet. Turns out some people respond to my comment and it's beyond what i imagine. The first comment came from @Kurage_Chan that wrote:

"I understand this is supposed to be a compliment, but using the term 'real women' isn't fair to transgender or intersex women. These are people who definitely identify as women, but are told they aren't 'real women'  because they were born with male genitals, and no matter what they do won't be accepted in society"

I just cant believe at that time. I just said the truth, Eddie-the actor is a real guy who dress up as a woman and looks so beautiful more than some real women. And someone feels it could be offensive to say??
And then I replied a short comment, avoiding long argument i might involve with @Kurage_Chan:
"Umm. the 'real women' in my first comment doesn't refer to transgender or intersex women"

I intend to emphasize that I don't attempt to make any offensive comment for transgender people. But of course someone thinks that I still need to have a "lecture" about it.

I read more comment from @Kurage_Chan that said:
"No, you didn't refer to that minority group in this comment. You just happened to make this comment on a biopic about a transgender woman. The term "real women" should be phased out of modern speech in general since it reaffirms the mentality that oppresses trans and intersex women today is what I am saying"

I replied, "Yea I understand what you're trying to say. But dude,  I still dont get how come saying "the real women" would be oppresive to trans or intersex women. You dont need to answer tho' because it's more like an opinion than a question."

@Annemarie_Evans joined the conversation and wrote:
"I get what you mean with "real women", but it would have been better if you would have said 'biological women' instead, transwomen are real women too"

Is she crazy, high, or what? How could you say that transwomen are real women?? I underline that, girl. In what world we can accept intersex women as real women? 

@Blaze Duck also wrote a comment: kurage chan sounds like a action film
I dont understand this so I just ignore it.

More and more people came to reply my comment. There's one that seems agree with me, the one with username @Snorcutter, who wrote "Technically they are not real women."
Finally there's one person on my side and sane.

@IGamechangerI replied to @snorcutter: "Technically they are women, just with mismatched physical attributes. Saying a transgender person isn't a real woman is denying them of their identity"

@Annemarie Evans chimed to @snorcutter: "Transgenders are born with a brain of the opposite sex and there is no way to change that, so they are technically real women"

And @snorcutter replied "They don't have a womans reproductive system. They are therefore not woman " 
Yeah, finally someone gets the point ! 

But of course it just cant be accepted. @Annemarie Evans wrote: "They aren't born with the biological body of the oppositite sex, they know that, but it's proven that their brain is and that it is in fact natural, so they are mentally the other sex and biological the same sex. The mind is more import to determinant who and what a human being is, so they are real."
Is  @Annemarie Evans just being delusional or what?

New comer @Gillian Fenwick came and wrote to @snorcutter: "There are plenty of women who are assigned female at birth, and identify as female, but are missing some parts of the female reproductive system, or some of their reproductive parts don't work, or women who choose not to reproduce. are you trying to say that they aren't "real women" either? all based on their reproductive parts? that's ridiculous"

@Ieasha 1596 agree with @snorcutter "I feel like "real women" is right .. lol like women can do things that Transgender women will never be able to do .."
One more person on my side.

@eyes667788 responds to @Kurage_Chan's comments by saying "It's what they deserve. Like it or not, we have minds and imagination for the purpose of becoming aware of principles. Not fighting them"

@eyes667788 also gives feedback to @Annemarie Evans: "They are born in low standing and can't find true connection to another person because people are taught not to be vulnerable and try to look for ways to trap a person into validating their every quirk with attention. What sucks is that love it or hate it, they're getting the recognition they want."

Another comment address to @Kurage_Chan from @eyes667788 : "What they are doing is a drastic approach to being validated, but they're stupid if they think normal people are going to welcome them into their lives"

@weiberfeind replied me "He's still not a woman regardless of how he looks and how he compares to real woman..that is the only thing that matters"

@Cameron W wrote: @Kurage_Chan Yeah science. It's a bitch isnt it!

Last but not least, @Jade Praerie wrote: @Kurage_Chan We should teach each other that it's normal and valuable for highly efferminate men to exist. We should't enforce a delusion of identity and shouldn't normalize lifelong addictions to synthetic hormones and painful cosmetic surgeries.

Well, thank you @Jade Praerie ! Keep being sane. But sadly, only few people are on my side compared to people who against our opinion. And I am pretty sure that more and more comments will come to reply me. 

Transgender people are people who change their gender identity, mentally and physically. They would never be the same with the real people who dont change anything. All of brainwashing idea about gender equality acceptance is just getting more and more revolting. I hope there will be more @snorcutter than @Kurage_Chan exist in this world though i think it's impossible...















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